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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Positive Press/Media Articles appearing.
« on: August 14, 2022, 09:02:28 PM »
I haven't posted anything lately but I've been microcampagning constantly.
I wanted to share this very positive article from the Grimsby Telegraph, about a Maize Maze Naturist event, organised by a close friend of mine. It was attended by around fifty people, quite a few who'd never tried naturism before. There was a Grimsby Telegraph photographer and colleague (both female) there and I casually said to them, "You should try it!  Go on, get your kit off!" One of them, (Katie) said, "Actually, I would like to!" and within about twenty seconds, her kit was off and she couldn't believe how good it felt!  Subsequently, she and her partner, put together a story of how she felt and of the whole experience being very positive!

Here is a link to the story!  Enjoy!

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/everyone-needs-it-womans-experience-7462572

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Hate Crimes Archive. / Re: Hate Crime Project Search Results
« on: February 21, 2021, 04:34:29 PM »
Thinking about it, Hate crime towards naturists usually consists of verbal abuse and in rare extreme cases, Physical abuse.
In law, both these offences can be dealt with in existing legislation.

Public Order Act 1986  s.4  s.4a and s.5

Common Assault – s.39 Criminal Justice Act 1988

Actual Bodily Harm (ABH) – s.47 OAPA 1861





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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Campaign for recognised clothing optional beaches.
« on: February 21, 2021, 03:34:28 PM »
I received the following message from a member of my group and who is also the representative for "Women in Naturism" for BN. She raised some valid points, which I feel should be considered.

Regards,
Phillip Green

Morning Phillip.  I have just seen your post to the group about beaches.  Both John and myself are deeply concerned that this would be a step in the wrong direction. What is needed is acceptance by the local councils that simple nudity is legal and permissible in public and all of the Crown beaches under their control, and notices to that effect should be displayed at all entrances. Our reasons for our opinion is as follows:

1.  If naturists are on a ‘non-designated’ beach, this will cause a negative reaction from non-naturist beach visitors.
2.  Designated beaches will encourage voyeurs (meerkats) etc.
3.  Local residents will object if their beaches become designated.
4.  Clarification of the legal nudity guidance removed the necessity for designated naturist beaches.

We do use a beach in Lincolnshire as naturists (with no other naturists present at the same time) and we have not had an issue.  The beach warden even saw us last summer and waved.  We would be saddened if we became less welcome at our beach because another one has been erroneously ‘designated’ elsewhere.

With all due respect, we really feel this campaign is a retrograde step and we would not support it.

Donna & John

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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Campaign for recognised clothing optional beaches.
« on: February 21, 2021, 07:17:10 AM »
I have placed this message on my Facebook group, "Lincolnshire Naturists UK" which I admin.
Hopefully, I may get some response.

Regards, Phillip Green

Hi all,  I have become involved as Lincolnshire area Representative in a new countrywide "Beaches" campaign for 2021, by The Naturist Action Group, lead by Duncan Heenan. (NAG director)

When they go to the beach in the summer, most naturists would prefer to go naked to enjoy the sun and sea. For that reason, many confine themselves to the few officially recognised naturist/clothing optional beaches, or one of the out-of-the way ‘tolerated’ ones. Legally this self-imposed ghettoism is not necessary because innocent, passive nudity in the UK is legal. So why don’t we naturists just strip off on the most convenient beach, and enjoy it as nature intended? Generally it’s because whatever the law may say, people don’t want hassle, and because society hasn’t yet caught up with the law, many naturists or would-be naturists, fear that they will get hassle if they strip off somewhere where it isn’t the accepted practice.
This reticence to be a pioneer is understandable. Naturists go to the beach to relax, not to run the risk of aggro from other beach users, the police or park wardens. The very few conflicts which do occur almost never result in any official action; but just the possibility in the back of the mind is enough to make people either travel big distances to find somewhere ‘safe’, or to keep their clothes on, or to just not go to the beach at all. So having the right to do it doesn’t seem to be leading people to actually do it. What they need is that feeling of safety which comes from official acceptance of naturism.
Following this train of thought, Naturist Action Group  has decided to mount a campaign in 2021 to try to persuade more  Local Authorities in coastal areas to formally recognise suitable beaches in a way that will give people the confidence to use them, knowing that no-one will object. Fortunately we already have a few ‘official’ beaches in the UK to point to, plus of course many hundreds on the Continent and further afield, where such arrangements are common. We acknowledge that there is an argument that this will arm the prudes with the notion that if naturists have ‘official’ beaches, they should therefore stay clothed on other beaches. However, as we said above, naturists aren’t going naked on 'textile’ beaches currently anyway, so in practise there is nothing to lose, except a theoretical argument. The hoped for benefit is that if nude beach use can be increased this way, more people will try naturism, and practice it regularly; and so it will become increasingly normalised. Other local authorities might see a fashion developing, and follow suit. It could also have economic and social benefits to such areas, by attracting visitors and allowing local naturists to stay local instead of having to travel miles out of their area just to strip off.
NAG has a wealth of experience from 11 years of successful campaigning to both national and local authorities. However, the key to any kind of local or regional campaigning is local people and local connections.      -  Duncan Heenon

My role is to gather a group of interested people who feel they would benefit from areas of beaches along the Lincolnshire coast, to enjoy naturism and which would ultimately become hassel free if the campaign is successful. I will also coordinate communication with the authorities concerned.

1.  We need to form a local campaign pressure group for when we are ready to approach the local authority.
2.  We need to identify at least one, and preferably two or more, beaches in the area which would be suitable. Many naturist beaches are very remote, but it defeats the object a bit if they are too difficult to get to. And of course we don't want to be relegated to somewhere that no one wants to visit.
3.  We need to find out which Council/Authority would have the legal authority to designate a beach as officially 'Clothing Optional'.
4.  We need to identify who the voting councillors are and prepare ourselves to test their existing opinion, and make out a case for a CO beach.

From experience, I personally haven't engaged any problems on the beaches I have used but for many, the thought of possible conflict can be very off-putting.
The nearest officially recognised naturist beach is in Holkham, North Norfolk, which is 88 miles from Lincoln.  Our nearest unofficially accepted beach is at North Coates.
The beach I tend to use most is North of Theddlethorpe. (North of Churchill Lane car park) I avoid the Dunes further down as there is lots of activity which is not of the Naturist ethos.
Please let me know if you are interested, or know anyone who may be interested in joining in the campaign and also if there are any areas of Lincolnshire beach you feel would be suitable. Please share your thoughts in the comments below.
Thank you,   Phillip.


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I came across this article regarding the taking and publishing of photographs of naked people without their permission. It seems it was aimed at the publishing of "revenge porn" and to protect victims of sexual assault and rape.
Could this be also applied to people who photograph naturists whilst they are out walking? 

Here's the link to the article.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/amp31903651/illegal-film-take-picture-naked-nude-without-permission/

Also, here's some more information.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/405286/revenge-porn-factsheet.pdf

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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Non-confrontational naturism
« on: February 20, 2021, 07:47:38 AM »
I put this cartoon together to illustrate how some police officers will do their best to find a way to make an arrest.

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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Fraisethorpe beach sign.
« on: February 19, 2021, 07:52:05 PM »
Following my successful mission to have the sign wording changed at Fraisthorpe in East Yorkshire, I am planning to continue with either complete removal, or wording changed on similar signs. I found one such sign at Cayton Bay, on the East Yorkshire coast. I also found a "write up" on the beach guide. I have sent information via the "correction" facility, to the site, in the hope that it will help update the existing misleading information.

The page can be found here:

https://www.thebeachguide.co.uk/north-east-england/yorkshire/cayton-bay.htm

My response is as follows:

Despite any sign suggesting that naturism is prohibited and 'offenders' may be prosecuted, this is not true. The law regarding nudity in public places was clarified in the spring of 2018 following many years of campaigning by The Naturist Action Group and later joined by British Naturism, resulting in parliamentary debate, concluding that passive nudity in public places, including beaches, open countryside, woodland, parks and gardens, country lanes, rivers, ponds, etc. is perfectly lawful unless the intention of the naked person is to cause alarm or distress, including behaviour of lewd or lascivious nature.  The Police and Crown Prosecution Service were issued guidance regarding reports and cases of nudity in public places.
Naturists are no longer confined to "designated" areas and may use any Crown authority beach, therefore councils cannot prohibit naturism, nor can they threaten prosecution of persons abiding by the law, which includes naturists enjoying nature's elements whilst naked in appropriate places.
I personally, as part of the Naturist Action Group, successfully had the wording changed on a similar sign at Fraisthorpe beach. It too threatened prosecution and suggested Naturism was an indecent act! The new sign now says, "This is not a designated naturist beach", which is technically true, as designated naturist beaches no longer exist and so all Crown authority beaches are not designated but can be lawfully used by naturists. The old traditional beaches will continue to be used but are not the only option for naturists.

Phillip


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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Fraisethorpe beach sign.
« on: February 06, 2021, 03:11:07 PM »
Just a little update on the sign on Fraisethorpe beach.
I found the attached photo on Facebook dated 30th January 2021.
I have included a before and after photo and also my response comment.
('nation' parkland has been corrected to 'national' parkland)
The sign appears to have been changed and although the criminal aspect has been removed, it still suggests the beach is not a designated naturist beach. Technically this is true, as are all Crown authority beaches.
I conclude that my efforts have been a success.

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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Non-confrontational naturism
« on: February 06, 2021, 01:26:28 PM »
I have always maintained this approach of keeping a distance from the general public but not out of sight. I
personally make close proximity the choice for others to make. I parallel the situation to smokers.
Fact:  Some people find the practice of smoking to be disgusting, especially in the presence of children.
Parallel;  Some people find nudity discusting, especially in the presence of children.
Fact:  It is not good etiquette for a smoker to purposely smoke in close proximity to a non smoker.
Parallel;  It is not good etiquette for a naturist to purposely be naked in close proximity to a non naturist.
Fact: It is not acceptable for a smoker to blow smoke into the face of a non smoker. A considerate smoker would extinguish the cigarette until the non smoker has passed.
Parallel; It is not acceptable for a naturist to flaunt him/her self in close proximity to a non naturist.
A considerate naturist would cover up with a bag or hat, for the few seconds it takes to pass. (This applies more to naturist ramblers).
There are too many who do things "because they can". They are wanting to challenge the law. It will take time to wean the general public into accepting nudity in public places. The approach needs to be subtle, at a distance and gentle.  We will get there eventually.
The other thing is, we need consistent support from law enforcement. Many officers are not following the guidance and often publish false information which leads the public to believe nudity in public places is unlawful. Because of this, many naturists are reluctant to pursue lawful naturist activity, as they fear arrest or/and having their photo appearing in their local or even national paper.  This all needs sorting to give naturists the confidence to get out there and enjoy naturism as it should be enjoyed.

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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Fraisethorpe beach sign.
« on: February 06, 2021, 12:28:52 PM »
Thank you John.
I agree with seeking out inappropriate signs on beaches. Obviously I am unable to do this by myself, though I do think we should have a central point of action, whereas if a sign is discovered, then it should be referred to an NAG appointee to deal with. I would be happy to take on this role. It would keep an amount of consistency in our response.
Thanks again for your support.
Kind regards,
Phillip

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NAG Campaigns. / Positive Press/Media Articles appearing.
« on: January 25, 2021, 10:44:24 AM »
It is good to see more positive naturist articles appearing in the press and media. I would like to think that the work of the NAG Press/Media Representative team is paying off.
I have recently commended one journalist in the form of an email, for such an article, published in "Skegness Standard". The couple who featured in the article are known to me and live in the same county. Below is a copy of my email which includes a link to the article.
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Subject: Article - 'It's so liberating': Couple bare all about coping in lockdown.

https://www.skegnessstandard.co.uk/lifestyle/outdoors/its-so-liberating-couple-bare-all-about-coping-lockdown-3102264

Dear Chrissie Redford,
As part of the Naturist Action Group Press/Media Representative team, my role is to look out for articles published about naturism. Unfortunately in the past, these articles have usually ridiculed naturists, beginning with such headlines as, Naked man spotted "somewhere", followed by a ridiculous story filled with innuendos and also misguidance regarding the laws of public nudity.
May I congratulate and thank you on behalf on the N.A.G. for the quality and positivity of your article and for the valuable help it will give with the promotion of naturism to the wider public.

Thank you for your time.

Kind regards

Phillip Green.

Naturist Action Group.
Press/Media Representative.


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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Fraisethorpe beach sign.
« on: October 24, 2020, 02:18:49 PM »
Hi John, thank you.
I haven't heard anything back from East riding as yet. I'm half not expecting to. The main reason for my complaint, was to have the criminal activity element separated from Naturist activity. East riding council have acknowledged and are taking positive action.
I have not been in touch with Rydale or F.U.N. I'm happy to see this through independently as an NAG accomplishment.
As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been any further police involvement, at least since the guidance was issued. Naturists are still using the former designated area without challenge. It was just the wording of the sign I was concerned about and my action has produced positive results. We will see when the work is completed.
I'm planning on seeking out similar signs and taking similar action to have them removed. I know of another sign a little further up the coast at Cayton bay, (a former designated beach) forbidding naturism. I will persue this in time.
Thanks for your support.
Kind regards
Phillip

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NAG Campaigns. / Re: Fraisethorpe beach sign.
« on: October 20, 2020, 05:53:28 AM »
Thank you, Duncan.
I'm very pleased to know, that after numerous failed attempts by the likes of Rydale Naturist Club and Fraisthorpe United Naturists, my action has produced a positive outcome. I will make an effort to have similar signs removed from other beaches around our coastline.
Thank you for your support. I'm proud to be a part of the NAG.

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NAG Campaigns. / Fraisethorpe beach sign.
« on: October 17, 2020, 06:16:13 AM »
I visited Fraisthorpe beach a few weeks ago and noticed the old sign was still in place. (See attachment) I was concerned that the wording would give the general public a bad impression of Naturism. There are two issues. 1, There are no beaches in the UK that are "Designated" solely for naturism and 2. 
The sign suggests that naturists perform Indecent acts, which may include simply being naked.

I emailed East Riding of Yorkshire Council and expressed my concerns. I received a response with positive results. They say they will be changing  the sign and removing the wording in relation to committing an offence and new signs will be erected in the area, asking the public to report sightings of criminal activity, thus removing the connection between criminal activity and naturism.
Because the statement "This beach is not a designated naturist beach" is true, they say a sign will remain.
I replied, suggesting the sign should be totally removed, as the statement is true for all Crown authority beaches. There is no need for
any such signs on beaches.  I am waiting for a response.
At least the Council have responded and are making positive changes.
My next mission is to approach the Scarborough authority regarding a sign that prohibits naturism at Cayton bay.

Phillip Green
NAG Press/Media Representative

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